Ticket Scalping

Our flight was canceled today. We have two tickets to sell / transfer... Anyone?

We just want the refund for what we paid.

Mail me at borgo /at/ sven /dot/ sk

Thanks

Looks like 400€ was a bargain.

For skilip , thank you for all that you do for Drupal, and I am glad you are able to come.
As to the controversy surrounding what sumitk intentions were at the time, I suspect that anyone who was involved in helping to "price the ticket" would have email correspondence that would establish the case one way of the other, but that is all in the past.

There was ambiguity and the DrupalCon staff have helped to clear that up. sumtik has been able to make it possible to skilip to come and we will all benefit from that. Well done.

Sumit sold his ticket to me for the original price. He sold it to me because I've done quite a bit for Drupal so far, and because I am basically going to Paris for the code sprints. So he actually donated the extra money he could earn with the ticket to the community.

Hi EKE007,

I understand that ticket scalping sounds odd and ethically unwise to most, so has Cary explained about the official rule. Without knowing about any such policy, I attempted to look for a buyer for my ticket. My price and offer rejections were part of price evaluations and I wasn't too sure what I'm supposed to do. Without still knowing anything about the policy Cary has mentioned, I finalized to offer my ticket to skilip (Philip Vergunst http://drupal.org/user/100880 ) at the original price who wanted to come to drupalcon for code sprints. I found it more obvious and satisfying to see someone more interested (in a way past drupal contributor) to be able to attend the conference, regardless of the higher offers I received. By good fortune, I find myself totally fitting to the ticket rule as well. I had to explain this for the fact that you are mentioning my name in your posts, EKE007. This wasn't a problem, rather something inviting me to write this reply.

Thanks for bringing up the discussion.

Wishing you best,
Sumit Kataria
(irc: sumitk)

Note: I was never bidding my ticket ... I just did a few tweets and contacted people asking for tickets and this started flood of offers in my inbox. My ticket was sold on its exact price not even a penny above. This ticket transfer occurred 28 hrs before start of this thread. It is reply to whole post rather any specific comment.

Selling the ticket for a higher price than you payed for it seems pretty low to me. If you are that desperate for money you probably shouldn’t have bought it in the first place.

The Drupal community is based on open source. Sharing knowledge, sharing the things you make. Contributing. Helping people out. Ripping people off for a DrupalCon ticket does not fit this community at all.

The position of the Drupal Association is that tickets may not be sold above their retail value. A ticket may be resold at the regular price of admission. In the case of DrupalCon Paris, tickets may be resold for up to 250€ regardless of their purchase price.

This means that regardless of whether the holder paid the earlybird price, the regular price or has a coupon from a platinum sponsorship, that ticket can only be resold for 250€ or less.

Holders of tickets transferred without outside of Drupal Association policy are liable to be denied admission.

Cary Gordon
Drupal Association Events Manager

the Question came up at DCDC and then as I hope it is now that its not a way that we should go down at.

So to say it very simple: Ticket scalping is totally unacceptable!!
and bidding out the ticket is in my eyes just as bad :(

If people start to capitalize on the main community event then we will have big problems, I think that the Drupalcon should return the money to those with tickets left and if thery are suspected of scalping then make an annulment.
a clear signal should be sent out:
"... sell the ticket for the price you paid or get the fuck outta OUR community ..."

As someone who will be in Paris at the time but is nonetheless without a ticket this is a difficult one to answer. We were robbed on July 15th while on holidays and the day I got my first card back was the day it was announced they were sold out so I've been poking around here looking for tickets ever since. While I'd no doubt have one in a heartbeat if people were scalping them I'm unconvinced this would be in the spirit of such an event. Sounds like a slippery slope to me... better to get a bigger venue next time.

Sam

While it's probably not particularly nice I see no way to disallow this at the current point and building a internationalized bidding site into the dc site for selling the ten tickets out in the market is not the most important open task to have a successfully dc I could think of. So in the end I think it comes down to: for the next dc maybe we choose to set rules for this in advance + find a bigger venue.